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What Next: TBD | The Death of an Online Whisper Network

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41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A shadow app for the dating world had its data hacked and exposed, and it laid bare the perils of creating safe spaces for women online — and of relying on tech companies. Guest: Kate Lindsay, host of Slate’s ICYMI Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.7

A quick heads up before we start the show, there is some adult language in this episode.

0:37.2

Okay, here we go.

0:43.4

About a week ago, a bunch of our colleagues were chatting over Slack about a women-only

0:48.2

dating app called T. It's an app that I had never heard of.

0:52.5

T is kind of the inevitable landing point for something that's been happening on the internet for a while, which is, you know, call-out culture.

1:03.8

That's Kate Lindsay, who co-hosts I-CYMIMI Slate's podcast about internet culture.

1:09.5

She also writes the newsletter embedded.

1:12.5

I asked Kate to come in and explain tea to me,

1:15.5

and why women, and in this case we're talking about straight women, would use it.

1:20.0

It's really started as a way for women to be like,

1:23.3

okay, I think this guy is good.

1:25.3

I like where it's going.

1:26.2

But, you know, either through personal experience or seeing it happen anecdotally, they want to just make sure that there is, before they, you know, go all in on this guy, that there's no one who has had experiences with him knows of any, like, quote unquote, red flags.

1:45.2

Some version of this has popped up on the internet over and over again.

1:49.7

Facebook groups have, are we dating the same guy?

1:52.9

Thousands of TikTok videos follow cheater trackers.

1:57.0

The website, don't date him girl.com, has existed since 2005 and even been featured on the Today Show.

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