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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Who Owns TikTok Now?

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🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

TikTok exploded to popularity not by giving users what they asked for—but by figuring out what users really were interested in, and serving that. 


What happens to this algorithm if Bytedance cedes control of it to the U.S.? 


Guest: Emily Baker White, senior writer at Forbes and the author of Every Screen on the Planet: The War Over TikTok


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1:05.2

You may not know Jorge Rays,

1:07.5

but if you're in Latin America and you're using TikTok,

1:10.6

you've seen his work.

1:12.5

His choices had a sort of spillover effect into what users saw, what users sought out what users were liking.

1:24.1

That's Emily Baker-White. She's a senior writer at Forbes and the author of Every Screen on the Planet,

1:30.0

The War Over TikTok, which just came out this week. In her book, Emily describes the early days

1:35.7

of ByteDance, the company that would go on to own TikTok. In 2018, ByteDance hired a small

1:42.0

team of content creators and sent them to Mexico City to try to figure

1:46.1

out how to appeal to the kids of Latin America, Mexico, and Spain.

1:51.1

Bite Dance says, all right, what we need is some people to tell us what's cool. Tell us what's funny.

1:55.7

Tell us what's trending. And so they hire a bunch of 20-something cool kids who know how the internet works to tell them what their algorithm should be showing people.

2:10.2

One of those cool 20-somethings was Jorge.

2:14.2

The earliest people who served as for content curators for bite dance,

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