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Just a quick heads up before we get started, we'll be talking about gun violence and suicide

particularly against children in this episode. Okay, here's the show.

Guns are the leading cause of death for minors. The CDC says there were more deaths from guns than car crashes in 2020 and the number has only risen since.

One major gun control group found that an average of 350 children a year find a gun and shoot themselves. It's a tragedy that's happening all over the country.

Sheriff Mike Chitwood says a curious toddler killed himself with his father's gun. This nine millimeter, the child found in the master bedroom nightstand loaded.

Night family and friends are remembering a kindergartener who accidentally shot and killed himself. We're learning a three year old was found, found a gun and shot himself.

But one potential solution has started to gain steam, smart guns, handguns that are designed to work only in the hands of the registered owner.

Yeah, so by far is building a smart gun.

That's Kai Clepfer, the founder and CEO of BioFire, a start up the plans to start selling the first consumer smart gun in December.

Say their handgun is equipped with tech that makes it impossible for anyone except the rightful owner to pull the trigger.

Right, basically is a handgun with the built in biometrics in this case, fingerprint facial recognition, which is always locked by default. It unlocks automatically when the owner or some of the owners chosen picks it up and function just like a normal gun in that case and then relocks basically as soon as it leaves the users control.

Clepfer became interested in smart guns roughly 10 years ago after a 24 year old murdered 12 people in an Aurora Colorado movie theater using multiple firearms.

Then 15 years old, Clepfer started working on smart guns as a science fair project. He knew he couldn't prevent a mass shooting like the one in Aurora, but he hoped to minimize accidental deaths.

Basically, what we're predominantly focused on is how can we ensure that children, teenagers, you know, other folks that are in the home don't get access to firearms that the owner doesn't tend for them to have access to.

Clepfer isn't interested in the regulation of firearms. Instead, he believes better tech and better design can make guns safer.

Really, the only approach that I see to that is by providing better tools, right, that in particular for home defense solve some of the tension between trying to one have fast access to a firearm.

If you're actually going to have any ability to use that in sort of the middle of the night, somebody's breaking your home. It's a very fast environment in most cases.

At the same time, you want to make sure your kids don't have access to it because that's going to be the highest risk that I'm getting access.

Sounds like a reasonable idea, right? But gun rights activists aren't sold. They worry that a smart gun is unreliable, and they imagine being an emergency situation meeting access to their firearm when the biometrics fail to recognize their face.

And in some ways, their concerns are not unfounded. There have been attempts at bringing smart guns to market before, all of which failed for one reason or another.

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