When I got Josh Chin from the Wall Street Journal on the line, I wanted to show him a video.

It's from Beijing on October 13th. Right before China's Communist Party Congress met to give

Xi Jinping a precedent-breaking third term.

Right. So in this video, what you have is a, what turns out to be a one-man protest.

He's the top of bridge called Sittong Bridge, which is in the northwestern part of Beijing and the university district.

It's a really busy intersection, tons of traffic. You can see cars flowing underneath it.

And he's standing on the bridge, he's got, there's something on fire. And he has two banners.

One says a bunch of things on it, but it's essentially saying, you know, we don't, we're tired

of COVID tests.

We want to eat.

We're tired of lockdowns.

We want freedom, that sort of thing.

And then the other one calls for the quote unquote autocratic dictator or the autocratic traitor

Xi Jinping to be deposed. So, you know,

Xi Jinping being the leader of China. So it's a really, a pretty remarkable scene in China.

You almost never see this sort of thing these days and especially not in Beijing. And what also

is really, really fascinating and surprising about this footage is it happened

two days before the start of a major Communist Party meeting in Beijing, just a few miles away.

What did you think when you heard about it and saw it?

I was just, it was shock, honestly.

You know, I mean, I covered China for more than a decade,

and actually one of my beats was human rights,

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