What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - America’s Tech Trustbuster
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🗓️ 19 July 2024
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The biggest companies in the world are now tech companies, which is why the biggest antitrust, anti-monopoly fights in recent memory are centered around Silicon Valley.
Guest: Jonathan Kanter, Assistant Attorney General, Antitrust Division, U.S. Department of Justice
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| 0:00.0 | When I first got Jonathan Cantor on the line, I wanted to know how he would describe his job, not the technical title, assistant attorney general for the antitrust division |
| 0:15.8 | at the Department of Justice, or what the press has called him, America's top tech cop or a modern trust buster. |
| 0:25.0 | But just how Cantor sees what he does every day. |
| 0:29.2 | So we take on bullies. |
| 0:32.2 | There are big companies that have sometimes the power of a small or large government and |
| 0:39.0 | they're telling people how to live their lives. |
| 0:42.0 | They're keeping other companies from competing fair and square and we step in to make sure that people are obeying the rules. |
| 0:50.0 | You literally have, I'm looking at a Zoom video of your office, I can see that you have an anti-monopoly game on the wall behind you. |
| 0:59.2 | So, like, that's the stick, right? |
| 1:01.6 | That's it. it. |
| 1:03.0 | what we do. We are anti-monopoly. |
| 1:05.0 | We are a lot, we are law enforcers. |
| 1:08.0 | And so there are basic rules of the road that mean that if you're going to compete you have to |
| 1:14.6 | compete fair and square that doesn't mean you can't win doesn't mean you can't try hard |
| 1:20.7 | does it mean you can't even throw a few elbows along the way in the marketplace? |
| 1:26.6 | We want folks to compete because when they compete, we all get the benefits of that competition. |
| 1:36.5 | When Cantor thinks the companies are not obeying the rules, |
| 1:39.8 | well, that's what lawsuits are for. |
| 1:42.6 | Under his leadership, since 2021, |
| 1:45.4 | the DOJ's antitrust division has filed suits |
| 1:48.2 | against Google, Apple, and Ticketmaster, |
| 1:50.9 | to name just a few. |
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