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🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Note: This episode was originally published on July 27, 2025. There’s an entire economy devoted to seeing what products are trending—clothing, skin care, even Greek Islands—and delivering you a cheaper knock-off to buy. Guest: Mia Sato, reporter for The Verge Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, everyone, it's Lizzie. The TBD crew is digesting our turkey and lying around, so we are
0:06.8	standing down today. But since it is Black Friday, we're going to bring back one of our favorite
0:11.9	episodes from earlier this year. Because if you are out looking for a bargain today thinking,
0:17.0	hey, maybe I could find a cheaper version of this. Listen to this conversation I had
0:22.0	with the verges Miyasato about dupes, the deep online world of finding a cheaper and sometimes
0:30.5	worse copy of basically anything you want.
0:40.3	I'm dying. I'm dying.
0:41.3	I'm dying.
0:42.3	I am literally dying right now.
0:47.3	I'm dying right now.
0:49.3	I'm dying right now.
0:52.3	Okay, just to cut in here,
0:55.4	the woman you're hearing is not actually dying.
0:58.2	She's just really excited, and for good reason.
1:01.3	It has been my ultimate dream for Taylor to wear one of my designs,
1:08.5	and I cannot believe it.
1:15.6	What you're listening to is fitness entrepreneur Cassie Ho, realizing that Taylor Swift is wearing clothing that she designed.
1:23.9	It was just a quick shot in a video, but it was enough. Cassie's design went viral.
1:30.0	A fluffy, multi-tiered active skirt called the pirouette scort, sold by Ho's brand Popflex.
1:38.3	The most famous version of it is light purple.
1:42.1	That's Mia Sato, a reporter for The Verge.
1:45.4	It has an elasticized waistband and like three tiers of this beautiful soft mesh.
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