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When I got epidemiologist Caitlin Jedalina on the line, she just wrapped up a meeting with the Biden

administration about bird flu.

And it's basically an update about what the agencies are doing, what questions are getting answered from which lane, and perhaps most importantly, an opportunity to ask questions

and push for better. And boy, do external scientists never disappoint in that arena.

So it was definitely a fruitful

conversation. What do you mean when you say external scientists don't disappoint? Like,

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