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What Next | Are Democrats Already Fumbling a Win?

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Off-cycle elections generally favor the party that isn’t in the White House. And with a large voting bloc of federal employees, Virginia Democrats were feeling good about the upcoming elections for governor and attorney general. Then texts from their AG candidate hit the news. Guest: Eva McKend, correspondent covering national politics for CNN. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived.

0:09.0

Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been hold up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year.

0:15.0

The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist.

0:20.0

Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government

0:23.0

was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over, three people were dead, and the government

0:29.2

had spent millions of dollars to catch one man. We'll find out why the siege at Ruby Ridge

0:34.7

unfolded the way it did, and think about some of the questions it raises.

0:39.4

What should we do about white supremacists? Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring

0:45.3

myth for the far right? And whose fault was it anyway?

0:51.0

Subscribe to Standoff, what happened at Ruby Ridge, and Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.

1:00.7

Hey, everyone. It's Mary.

1:02.7

Before I get into it, I have a fun request for you.

1:05.5

In an upcoming plus segment, we are going to be talking about Halloween.

1:09.9

Specifically, is it possible to do a topical

1:13.0

Halloween costume this year and have it be fun? But to make this episode saying, we need you. So,

1:20.7

tell me your favorite Halloween costume story. Tell me if you have a costume this year, what it is,

1:26.8

why? In a world of ice raids and National Guard deployments, can you have a costume this year. What it is? Why? In a world of ice raids and National Guard

1:29.8

deployments, can you have a topical costume that is, dare I say, hilarious? You can weigh in by

1:37.5

leaving a message on our voicemail line that is 646-582-00911. Again, 646-582-0091.

1:47.1

All right.

1:47.9

Here's the show.

1:53.8

Here is something I know in my bones.

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