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Thank you so much for having me.

I am thrilled that you are here, and I'm going to introduce you real quick.

Kim Holtman is a licensed clinical mental health counseling associate with 10 years of experience as a public high school teacher. She is a strengths-based

nerd-avergents, affirming therapist with training in plea therapy in EMDR. She is mom to two

fantastically nerd-a-vurgin kids and is always looking for the next adventure. I love that.

Thank you. You are coming to the table with some pretty unique experience, being a teacher and then

turn therapist. Yeah. Well, actually, I got my counseling licensure while I was a teacher

because I felt like I did so much counseling and therapy that I just really needed more skills.

Right. Right. Exactly. And so as a teacher, there are so many hats that they wear. So that's not surprising that you were,

you were finding that you were doing a little bit of counseling. You know, and I think, again,

you're in a unique position to understand what it's like to be a teacher and how important

the child's mental health is. You know, we go

through our training and we go through all our years of school. And I think educators, a lot

falls on them. They're supposed to be kind of everything, right? And that's not so easy to do.

So today we're going to talk about what you've

learned as an educator with your education hat on and how we can use your experience to support

educators, to support parents and to support other therapists. Sound good?

Absolutely. I love it. Okay. So usually what happens is most children are sent to the principal's

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