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Worklife with Adam Grant

What motivates great Americans with Ron Chernow

Worklife with Adam Grant

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4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Ron Chernow is a Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer whose work has deepened our understanding of the men who made history in America, and even inspired Lin Manuel Miranda to write his musical about Alexander Hamilton. In this episode, he and Adam discuss Ron’s new book on Mark Twain, analyze what fuels outsized accomplishments, and dig into what it takes to uncover new insights into the lives of historical figures.


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Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/)

Guest: Ron Chernow (Website: ronchernow.com/


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Mark Twain by Ron Chernow 

Alexander Hamilton by Ron Chernow


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