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WHAT MAKES SUCCESS IN THE TRAGEDY OF WARFARE?? 3/8: The Commanders: The Leadership Journeys of George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel by Lloyd Clark (Author

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🗓️ 3 February 2025

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WHAT MAKES SUCCESS IN THE TRAGEDY OF WARFARE??
3/8: The Commanders: The Leadership Journeys of George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel by  Lloyd Clark  (Author)

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Born in the two decades prior to World War I, George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel became among the most recognized and successful military leaders of the 20th century. However, as acclaimed military historian Lloyd Clark reveals in his penetrating and insightful braided chronicle of their lives, they charted very different, often interrupted, paths to their ultimate leadership positions commanding hundreds of thousands of troops during World War II and celebrated as heroes in the United States, Britain, and Germany.
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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel with Professor Lloyd Clark, Director of Research,

0:09.8

the Center for Army Leadership of the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, as well as professorial

0:15.9

research fellow in war studies, Humanities Research Institute, University of Buckingham. We're discussing

0:21.7

his new book about leadership, which the professor tells me is as critical today in the 21st

0:28.4

century when we're dealing with drones and robots as it was in the 19th century with

0:33.6

cavalry tactics in the 20th century inventing the tank. We go now to George Patton.

0:39.3

George Patton is part of an army that does not proceed to France immediately in 1914.

0:45.2

The bloodletting is appalling.

0:47.8

In 1917, it is the decision of the President, Mr. Wilson, and Congress to commit the U.S. to the war.

0:55.4

And therefore, Patton needs to find a way to the battle. He wants to fight. He wants to be a

1:00.4

general, and he believes war will make him a general. So he appeals to Pershing to take him

1:06.1

along in June of 17, which is a year before the U.S. really gets into the fight.

1:11.8

Spring of 18 is when the U.S. fights.

1:14.3

But he goes off as imagining himself as a hero.

1:19.3

And herein, Professor, is striking.

1:21.6

I have a note here that Patton publishes or writes up brief notes on the Army Regiment of tanks.

1:32.2

There, early on now, he in 1960, 1917, the tank has been invented by the British Army.

1:40.0

And Patton is suddenly steered into thinking about it.

1:43.5

Is it comfortable for him?

1:44.8

He is a horseman and a cavalryman by trade.

1:49.9

I think it is difficult for him as a cavalryman,

1:54.8

but not difficult for him as a professional.

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