What Makes Our Friendship Work

The Yes Theory Podcast

Yes Theory

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.8 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Matt, Thomas, and Ammar have a picturesque kind of friendship. They’ve made memories on nearly every continent, built a business, and chased down their wildest dreams… together. But what you don’t see on screen is that their friendship isn’t always easy. In fact, it rarely ever is. As is the case with many things in life, it’s leaning into the hard, uncomfortable parts that makes all of the beautiful parts possible. For Matt, Thomas, and Ammar that looks like a mix of going off and doing tough personal work alone, and coming back together to have hard, honest, and deep conversations as frequently as possible. It’s love, commitment, and discomfort -- on repeat. So in this episode, we’re switching it up a bit. There are no guests. We travel into Yes Theory’s basement to listen to one of many raw, vulnerable conversations between Matt, Thomas, and Ammar. They talk to each other about some recent struggles, how their relationship has changed throughout the years, and what they’re hoping for in the future. They also share publicly for the first time why Matt has officially stepped back from hosting on the YouTube channel, and what it took to make that decision. The entire episode is really just a reflection on how our closest relationships shape us, call up our deepest insecurities, and push us to become better. It’s also a primer for how we can make long-term partnerships last, lean on other people without becoming too dependent, and push forth a collective vision while still maintaining true to ourselves. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The way I feel about meeting Kate is the same thing, Matthew Thomas.
0:04.4	That's me. I'm Kate Ward.
0:06.4	I feel the exact same, you know, divine intervention and just sense of, you know,
0:11.8	there's something bigger than us at play she just she feels like
0:14.8	family to me I think nobody understands to the depth that she does what yesterday is trying to do in the world
0:22.1	I've been part of the yes theory team since 2019 and let me tell you it's been
0:26.5	quite the year and a half my path first crossed with Matt Thomas and Amars when
0:31.0	they saw this article I wrote about the Yes Theory business model.
0:34.0	I argued that great companies like Nike and Apple
0:37.0	started with a product and only afterward did they try to create a philosophy around that product.
0:42.0	New companies that have the potential to be great, like Yes Theory,
0:46.0	started instead with the philosophy and then built products out of that.
0:50.0	Yes Theory was one of the first companies I'd seen executing this kind of inverse business model, right?
0:54.5	But the truth is, I didn't care about Yes Theory because of the business model.
0:58.0	I wrote that article from the darkest place I'd ever been.
1:01.0	I'm not going to tell you my whole life story or anything because this isn't my
1:04.0	podcast but the Spark notes is that I was dealing with a textbook quarterlife crisis.
1:09.5	Welcome everyone. Welcome to the first ever seek this comfort passion show.
1:14.3	Hopefully one out of many of them.
1:19.9	And for whatever reason, watching these three dudes jump out of airplanes and connect with strangers
1:23.7	across the world made me feel hopeful.
1:27.3	After falling down a yes theory rabbit hole, the idea of seeking discomfort stuck with me.
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