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of the art and one of the fastest up-and-coming jewelry companies in the world while also working still within the sport of running at times. I was like, I got to get this guy on the podcast. If you're unfamiliar with David, he used to run for the University of Portland, I think is what they call it, but Portland, UP. And back in the day in high school, he ran for Nywatt High School before they were all that

they are today and was one of the best in the state in the state of Colorado. He was a legend in

college then went on to work with Ditas and then he started David Perry Jewelry. This conversation

is wide ranging from his running years, what running needs to him. The biggest disappointment

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of the greatest stories in this part of running. And today is a beautiful one with Mr. David Perry.

David Perry, welcome to the podcast. What was the first piece of jewelry you ever remember receiving or getting?

I mean, the first piece of jewelry really notably was the first gold chain I bought,

which was a two millimeter 14-carat gold rope chain that was like all my money. And I was 20

living in New York. and I still have it

to this day. Wow. So 20 years old was when you first bought it. Yeah. Yeah. I think like having no money,

making the wrong decision, buying gold chain, but feeling like this was like, you know, this

inevitable piece of my character that I needed is obviously, I mean, now it's the best decision I made. Well, we'll talk about this in a little bit, but you ran for Portland back in the day. And before we kicked out this podcast, we were talking about the names that you're on the team with, like Scott Fobble, you know, Woody Kincaid, the guys who competed against like Jared Ward, if I called Woody right now and put him on speakerphone, like, would he,

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