What It Takes to Score 175 (Ep. 443)

Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Education

4.8 • 868 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2024

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to score 170 on the LSAT? A mastery of the English language, sharply honed reasoning skills, and a strong work ethic. But with the increasing trend of scores surpassing 170 in recent years, maybe we should now ask: What does it take to score 175? This week, Nathan and Ben explore the habits and traits of those who excel at the highest levels on the LSAT. The guys also contemplate the future of Logical Reasoning, delve deeper into law schools’ unjust pricing, and consider an unconventional transfer plan.

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8:46 - April LSAT Registration - An anonymous listener seeks guidance on whether to register for the April LSAT. Nathan and Ben are concerned by Anonymous’s relatively small amount of progress over a year of LSAT study.

21:06 - The Future of LR - Some people have speculated that Logical Reasoning will feature more “formal logic” and formulaic Must Be True questions when the logic games go away. Ben and Nathan don’t envision a drastic change. They point out that most LSAT questions are already Must Be Trues.

33:23 - What It Takes to Score 175 - Top LSAT scorers exhibit diligence, patience, and humility.

49:02 - FAFSA Delay - The Department of Education recently announced a five-month delay in processing the FAFSA. Nathan and Ben lament how loans are labeled “aid,” and they examine more evidence of law schools’ unfair pricing.

1:14:09 - Scholarship Data - Listener Spencer shares data from lsd.law that indicates that some schools’ scholarship decisions are based solely on LSAT and GPA. What’s the takeaway? One LSAT point could save you tens of thousands of dollars.

1:17:43 - Transfer Down? - An anonymous listener considers transferring to a lower-ranked law school for a better scholarship and lower level of academic competition. Ben and Nathan propose an alternative: dropping out entirely.

1:29:00 - Tips from a Departing Demon - LSAT Demon student Rick suggests ditching your timelines and embracing a slow-and-steady approach to LSAT improvement.

1:29:57 - Word of the Week - Listener Kate is no milquetoast.

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0:00.0	What does it take to score in the 170s?
0:02.0	1, your mastery of the English language,
0:05.4	2, your reasoning skills, and 3, your willingness to work hard.
0:10.6	Yep.
0:11.6	But with the number of 170 plus scores on the rise in recent years, maybe we should ask,
0:17.0	what does it take to score at 175? Hello and welcome to episode 443 of the Thinking Elsat Podcast. I'm Nathan Fox. With me is Ben Olson. We are the co-founder of
0:33.9	Elsat demon.com and the Elsat demon daily podcast. You can be Elsat famous share
0:38.5	news and ask questions on our website thinking Elsat.com. Upcoming deadline February 29th. Oh yeah so like a couple days after this airs you have to decide whether you're going to register for the April 2024
0:54.9	L-SAT. Ben, how should people decide whether they should register for the
0:59.1	April 2024 L-SAT? Yeah, just look at your recent practice test.
1:03.6	Have you gotten a score that you'd be happy with and how do you decide that?
1:07.2	You go to ELSAT Demon.com forward slash scholarships.
1:11.4	You put in the scores that you're getting or hope to get and your GPA and you see if you
1:16.2	can go to schools for free or almost free that you'd be happy with.
1:20.8	Perfect and if your practice test scores are looking like the kind of scores that are going to get you into the
1:27.4	right school at the right price, then go ahead and register.
1:31.5	If you're within a few points, maybe go ahead and register. If you're within a few points, maybe go ahead and register.
1:35.5	If you're 15 points away, probably don't register.
1:39.8	Pretty simple.
1:41.3	I think it's a pretty big costly mistake, you know, just financially costly mistake that people make is they register for tests way in advance and then they find out, oh, I'm not actually ready for that test and then they do stupid things right they either take it when they're not prepared which is probably the worst thing you could do or they end up paying the law school admission council to move the test date,
2:06.0	which was just so unnecessary because you can always just wait to the deadline to register.
2:11.0	So don't throw money away by registering for tests way in advance.
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