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Is Elisa? I do hear you.

Hi. Hey.

When I reached Lisa Lair, at the New York Times,

this is one of the first things she said to me.

Um, Lisa, thank you so much for doing this.

Oh, thanks for having me.

I love talking about Tulsi Gabbard.

So you're my sweet spot.

I think a lot of people feel the way Lisa does.

They want to talk about Tulsi Gabbard,

but at the same time, they are not quite sure

what Tulsi Gabbard is trying to tell them.

I just find her really fascinating,

and I find her evolution really fascinating

from this sort of darling star of the Democratic Party

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