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Coffee House Shots

What is Tony Blair up to?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Tony Blair is making waves in Westminster today after his institute published a report on net zero that appears to undermine Ed Miliband and Labour’s green agenda. In his foreword – while not directly critical of the UK government – he encouraged governments around the world to reconsider the cost of net zero. Many have compared Blair’s comments to those made by Kemi Badenoch several weeks ago and questioned the timing – just 48 hours before the local elections. What is Blair up to? Should Labour listen to Tony?

Also on the podcast, with the local elections tomorrow, we take one final look at the polling. With Labour expecting big losses, how can the party spin the results?

James Heale speaks to the pollster James Johnson and John McTernan, former political secretary to Tony Blair.

Produced by Oscar Edmondson.

For tickets to our local elections shake-up event with Jacob Rees Mogg and Zia Yusuf, click here

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0:00.0

We are heading into perhaps the most consequential local election in recent memory.

0:05.0

Forecasters are expecting big gains for reform in the Lib Dems and a bad showing for Labour and the Tories.

0:09.8

Could we be looking at the end of the two-party system?

0:12.5

To make sense of what comes next, please do come along to our local elections shake-up event.

0:17.6

Join the spectators panel and special guests, Sir Jacob Reesmog and Zia Yusuf as they

0:22.3

analyse the results on the 7th of May at the Emanuel Centre in Westminster. For tickets, go to

0:27.7

www.com.combe.combeauld slash local elections live. Hello, welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Heel. I'm joined today by James Johnson of Jail Partners and John McTernan, former political secretary, Sir Tony Blair. And it is Tony Blair that today is making a bit of splash in Westminster. His institute, the TBI, has put out a new policy paper talking about the costs of net zero.

0:55.4

And in his foreword, Sotoni has written some comments which are quite critical, not directly of the government in terms of specific policies, but trying to sort of say that governments around the world need to consider the cost of these eco-polices when they're sort of weighing up the burdens on everyday voters.

1:09.5

I mean, John, what's your take on this?

1:10.9

Because in government, some will be saying that this is unhelpful timing.

1:13.8

This is a couple of days for the local elections.

1:15.7

And we all know Ed Milamand's under a bit of fire as we saw on the Commons yesterday.

1:19.5

Look, Labour are cooked in these elections already, as we were going to discuss later in the podcast.

1:26.1

I think actually if you read, and it's interesting, so far I've talked about a dozen people

1:31.4

this morning about Tony Blair's introduction to his pamphlet.

1:34.8

I think I'm the only one who's actually read it.

1:37.0

And the things that I would draw out from it are one.

1:39.7

Tony says people feel they're being made to pay costs for a transition that they didn't cause.

1:44.7

I think that's an absolutely accurate diagnosis of politics, and it goes to the heart of some

1:48.8

the energy exploited by the right in politics.

1:52.0

But that's actually an issue that the government have grappled, taken head on.

1:57.0

Ed Miller-Band's signature policy is the creation of Great British Energy.

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