Welcome to the Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Podcast. The podcast to help you in your journey

towards becoming a wise, empathic, genuine and connected mental health professional.

I'm your host, Dr. David Puder, a psychiatrist who splits his time practicing psychopharmacology,

individual and group psychotherapy, medical director of a day treatment program,

medical education research and teaching residents and medical students.

So welcome back to the podcast. Today I am joined by Allison Maxwell. She is a social worker

in progress to get her PhD in clinical social work at the Institute for Clinical Social Work in Chicago.

One of the rare schools that give a PhD in kind of more of the psychoanalytic psychodynamic

form of therapy. And she got her MSW at Lomolinda, her BSW at Los Yara, and she's an assistant

professor here at the School of Behavioral Health, and someone I refer patients to. So there's a

kind of a group of therapists, and she's one of them that I really want to get my patients into.

Especially that they're especially the patient who is looking for more of deeper work,

who's maybe willing to do longer term a couple years, maybe in a couple times a week,

and she, you know, I send these patients, they're depressed, they're anxious,

they're at one place in their life, and then I see them back every like three to four months,

and they do a lot better. And so I like to bring on people like Allison Maxwell, who I work with,

and who are just really good therapists. And so Allison, welcome to the podcast.

Yeah. And so Allison, first question is why in particular did you decide it weren't yourself

towards more of the psychodynamic theory, the psychoanalytic theory? And maybe what are some of the

misconceptions that people have when they hear that? Okay. That's a great question, and one that I've

thought a lot about. One of the main reasons that I became interested in psychodynamic work is

I had a professor in my MSW program, some of you may know of her Diana Simon. And she taught a class

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