Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome. I am Karen Hunter and I get to talk to some amazing people.

This woman came onto my radar about 20 years ago when she produced a book called the post traumatic slave syndrome.

It has been making the rounds. People have been reading it. It is part of some curriculum.

It is amazing. And what she has been able to do is identify how we got here in this country

in the United States of America with all of these racial

stratifications. I was just listening to Lurie Daniel Fabers on Urban View. Talk about this book. She has

the book and is dog-eared and she's reading from it on the air on Channel 126, Sirius XM. If you

are interested in tuned into the show you won't be disappointed but in this

interview you're going to hear me talk about post-traumatic slave syndrome with the great

doctor joy de grew and beyond that we're also tackling a lot of things that I hope maybe

I really pray we can get this together. But we first got to all agree

that there's a problem. And then we also have to know the source in the history. And this woman

has all of the good. So stay tuned. It's a two-part discussion with Dr. Joy DeGru and me. Stay tuned.

I've been stalking this woman for about 25 years.

I actually had the pleasure of speaking with her a long time ago before the book was done.

And I've been every year, can you please come on the show?

How can we reach you?

How can we get you?

What is this?

I just want to talk with you.

You are brilliant.

And she is brilliant.

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