Hello and welcome to episode two of the Storygrid podcast. This is Tim Graal. I'm your host and Sean is going to join me here in just a minute.

But before we dive into this week's episode, I just have to say thanks so much to all of you that got behind the first episode of our show.

Sean and I figured we'd put out the show and a few people would listen to it and that'd be

pretty much it. But instead, we got so many emails, so many posts on social media. We had a lot of

you leave reviews and ratings on iTunes. We were just really surprised by the amount of you that

listened to the show and enjoyed it. So thank you so much for that. We wanted to let you know

that we set up a Twitter account. It's at Twitter.com slash storygrid. So just at story grid.

And right now, as of this recording, we have a grand total of three followers and one of those is me,

so it doesn't really count. But we wanted to let you know it's there

because that's how you can interact with us. If you want to ask a question that we can throw

into a future episode of the show, that's the way to do it. If you have feedback, questions,

do it on Twitter, just at StoryGrid, and either Sean and I will jump in and answer your

questions and respond to you.

So without further ado, let's jump into episode two. We are talking about literary versus

commercial fiction and we start to dive into the giant topic that is genre. I hope you enjoy it.

Let's get started. Hey, Sean, so this week I want to

start in the literary and commercial chapter of your book and just talk a little bit about

you call them two different cultures, commercial and literary. Just talk about

that for a little bit. Explain what you mean by that. Sure. When I first started out in publishing,

and this is probably the early 1990s, probably around 1991, 92, and I think it's still exactly

the same way. I don't think it changes at all. Essentially what

happens is if you say, Tim, you're 22 or 23 and you want to get into book publishing, you put your

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