Hey, Claire. Hi, Tyler. Hi, Tyler. Thanks so much for being here. Of course. Thanks for having me.

You just wrote a fascinating piece about the changes that have been happening at the Washington Post under Jeff Bezos's leadership. This is one of the biggest media stories in the world right now. And obviously, we care about it as people who are in media. But I'm hoping that you can explain why the general public, particularly people who don't even subscribe to the post, should care about what's happening at this one newspaper. Like, can you kind of set the stakes for us here? Sure. I think in general, we should all, as Americans, be vigilant about where

quality news comes from and who is doing the news gathering. Because whether you know it or not,

probably even if you don't read the New York Times or the Washington Post or the New Yorker,

you're probably reading news that comes from their reporting and from their resources, because all of those things trickle down through the cable news ecosystem, the radio news ecosystem, Twitter, social media, all that stuff.

So institutions like The Washington Post and the New York Times are primary American news gatherers and therefore the state of their business and their journalism, I think, is

everyone's business in a hopefully healthy or trying to be healthy democracy. And the Washington

Post has had some trouble in the past few years. And so we kind of set out to say, like,

what's been happening at the Washington Post over the more than 10 years that Jeff Bezos, the world's second richest person, has owned the paper?

And I should stop here and say that there were sort of two big headline-grabbing news events with the Washington Post and Bezos in the past eight or so months.

One was right before the presidential election. Bezos announced

that the Post wasn't going to endorse a candidate, as it usually did, and I think the expectation

had been that it was probably going to endorse Kamala Harris. And then the other big news came in

late February when Bezos announced that the opinion pages of the Washington Post, which are separate from the newsroom and which the owner has oversight and totally legitimate sort of ability to insert himself into, Bezos said that the direction of the post opinion pages would be shifting to cover free markets and personal liberties and nothing else.

And the nothing else was the biggest thing that caught people, I think, at the post

and close post watchers by surprise, because that really means, I think, it's been interpreted

in the month since then, and in my reporting it's been interpreted that way, that it's probably

going to try to be a more libertarian opinion page. And, you know, that's a

marked shift, I think, from the post of the past 30 or 40 years. So people are trying to figure

out what's going on in Bezos's brain that he's making these big changes to this paper,

that for years he's sort of left alone. And in a lot of ways, also still does leave alone,

except for a few sort of big, big decisions.

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