4.8 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 10 June 2020
⏱️ 12 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
0:00.0 | What is going on? |
0:07.3 | In March 2020, while launching a new book, I took part in a BBC radio program, along with |
0:15.2 | Mervyn King, who'd been the governor of the Bank of England, at the time of the financial crash of 2008. |
0:23.5 | He, together with economist John Kay, had also brought out a new book called Radical Uncertainty, |
0:30.7 | decision-making for an unknowable future. |
0:33.7 | The coronavirus pandemic was just beginning to make itself felt in Britain, and it had the effect of making both of our books relevant in a way that neither of us could have predicted. |
0:45.7 | Mine is about the precarious balance between the I and the we, individualism versus the common good. |
0:53.3 | Theirs is about how to make decisions when you can't tell what the future holds. |
0:58.8 | The modern response to this latter question has been to hone and refine predictive techniques using mathematical modeling. |
1:08.5 | The trouble is that mathematical models work in a relatively abstract, |
1:13.8 | delimited, quantifiable world and can't deal with the messy, unpredictable character of reality. |
1:21.2 | They don't and can't consider what Donald Rumsfeld called the unknown unknowns, and what Nicholas Taleb called black swans, |
1:32.0 | things that no one expected but that changed the environment. We live in a world of radical uncertainty. |
1:40.4 | Accordingly, they propose a different approach. |
1:45.0 | In any critical situation, they say, the key question to ask is what is happening? |
1:52.0 | They quote Richard Rumelt, a great deal of strategy work is trying to figure out what's going on, |
1:58.0 | not just deciding what to do, but the more fundamental problem of comprehending |
2:03.1 | the situation. Narrative plays a major role in making good decisions in an uncertain world. |
2:10.4 | We need to ask of what story is this a part. Neither Ramelt nor King and Kay K. Quote Amy Choir, but her book, Political Tribes, |
2:22.5 | is a classic account of failing to understand the situation. Chapter by chapter, she documents |
2:30.7 | American foreign policy disasters from Vietnam to Iraq |
2:36.2 | because policymakers didn't comprehend tribal societies. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.