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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"What Is Gender?" with Courtney Act (aka Shane Jenek)

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2022

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

What is a man? What is a woman? What is transgenderism? What is drag? When are we acting out gender stereotypes, and when are we just being ourselves? Shane is the man behind Australia’s most popular drag queen, Courtney Act. Josh and Shane debate gender, sex, and the imminent death of heterosexuality (maybe). 

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0:00.0

Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Today, one of them of greatest

0:08.9

legends in drag queenery globally, perhaps second only to RuPaul. Courtney Act is the character,

0:18.3

the pseudonym of Shane Genick. Shane is really interesting, fascinating human being.

0:24.2

You know, you probably know Courtney as Australia's most popular drag queen

0:28.1

and singer and television personality.

0:30.5

Courtney came to prominence.

0:32.1

You may have forgotten on Australian Idol,

0:35.3

the Australian version of Pop Idol, American Idol and so on, in 2003,

0:41.9

she was on Rupall's Drag Race in 2014. She's done an enormous amount of television hosting.

0:49.1

She made it big in the United Kingdom in 2018 when she was on Celebrity Big Brother, and she won. She won

0:56.8

the season. And she really revolutionized and changed people's ideas about, I suppose,

1:01.7

gender and sexuality and gay people and drag queens and all the rest of it. Through some of her

1:07.9

sort of confronting interactions with some of the other contestants in the Big Brother household.

1:13.1

She released a soul for Eurovision for the Eurovision final in 2018, came in fourth place.

1:20.8

She was on Dancing with the Stars in Australia.

1:24.4

Look, to try to summarize Courtney's role by reciting a list of achievements is invariably

1:30.8

going to be unsuccessful because Courtney looms so large in Australian public life and means so much

1:38.1

the LGBTQI plus community. But who is the person behind Courtney? Who is this young Queenslander named Shane Genick?

1:48.9

Shane is very thoughtful. I have a lot of respect for him as not just a performer and a boundary

1:54.2

pusher, but as someone who wants to think about what gender is and what sex is, in both meanings of that word, and what sexuality is.

2:03.6

And while we're all sort of chattering on the sidelines about transgender rights and

2:07.2

gender critical theory and so on, here is an individual who has devoted his entire life

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