This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. We've seen a pattern over the last decade, angry, isolated young men, mostly online, spiraling from rejection, into rage, and then turning that rage outward. They call themselves in cells, and while that used to sound like internet noise,

the body count tells a very different story. We've seen it with Elliot Roger, Alec Minneson,

Scott Borelli, and now Brian Coburger, who's pled guilty to killing four University of Idaho

students in one of the most brutal cases that we've seen.

Today we're going to dig into the psychology behind it all.

What pulls someone into the in-cell mindset?

What is the in-cell mindset?

What does it all mean?

Other than just kind of a weird word, you're going, well, that sounds creepy. And it should. And it's something more of us need to be aware of, especially if you have young teenage boys or you interact with them in any way, shape, or form, or your daughters, or your children, or anyone does. Because there's a lot of it out there. How does it escalate into violence?

And is there any way to stop it before it gets that far?

Joining me to discuss Chavon Scott, psychotherapist, and author of the book,

The Minds of Mass Killers, Get It Wherever You Get Books.

Chavon, let's start at the beginning of the in-cell story.

This started back a long time ago.

It came from a support group, started in the 90s, actually by a female.

But obviously, it's since been hijacked by a lot of toxic, misogynist subcultures.

Let's start at how it originally began, though.

Can you start there for us? Yeah, as I understand it, it was fairly benign in the beginning.

And a woman was involved trying to help these guys. But it quickly devolved into this echo chamber of rage and rather bizarre beliefs that women were intentionally trying to deny men's sex, that there was like this conspiracy thinking.

And it attracted a certain kind of young male.

And the scary thing about these groups, because they're more than one place on, you know,

online where people congregate about it, is that it reinforced these distorted beliefs.

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