What if we were wrong? It's the haunting question Barack Obama asked Ben Rhodes after Donald Trump was elected president in November 2016.

Rhodes, as he writes in his new book The World As It Is, was taken aback, wrong about what he asked the president.

Obama gives an answer that to some smacks of condescension, but also betrays some doubts.

He had tried to do the right thing and restoring America's image around the world and pulling back from the adventurous foreign policy of the Bush years.

But now he fears maybe he missed something. Maybe we push too far. Maybe people just want to fall back into their tribe, he tells Rhodes.

In his book, Rhodes gives a bird's eye view of many of the foreign policy triumphs and setbacks of the Obama years.

The killing of Osama bin Laden, the hopes of the Arab Spring, followed by the debacle of the serious civil war, the Russian attack on the US election.

But it is a question Rhodes returns to in his prologue. What if we were wrong?

We'll ask Rhodes about it on today's episode of Skull Duggery.

There is absolutely no collusion. I didn't make a phone call to Russia. I have nothing to do with Russia. Everybody knows it.

Because people have got to know whether or not their presidents are corrupt, but I'm not a crook.

I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.

My heart and my destination still tell me that's true.

But the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

But he times has to answer this question. Russia is a rose.

I'm Michael Isgop, Chief Investigator of Correspondent for Yahoo News.

I'm Dan Clyde, Editor-in-Chief of Yahoo News.

So Dan, the Rhodes book is quite fascinating for those of us who lived through that era and reported on it.

But there are a couple of developments this week that I think we should talk about.

The one that really stuck out to me was Bill Clinton out there for the first time in his first interview since the Me Too movement.

So basically pushing back on the idea that he had to apologize to Monica Lewinsky and going after Craig Melvin of NBC about imagined facts.

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