Hello, welcome to the Liz Wheeler Show. I'm Liz Wheeler. We are, yes, you guessed it.

At Matt Conn three in Miami. Still here. This is how many interviews that we've been doing

dawn to dusk day after day because there's so many good speakers, so many good panelists

here that I want to talk about. I want to talk to not talk about at least not all there

on the set. With me now is the culture editor at the Federalist Emily at Gisinski. Emily

good to see you. Good to see you, Liz. Okay. So you recently wrote a piece at the Federalist

in which you very politely criticized the Republican Party at large for how they have

framed the messaging on green energy and climate change. I want to be a little more blunt

and a little less polite and you and say Republicans have really messed this up, have made

it, have actually played by the terms set by the Democratic Party on electric vehicles,

on fossil fuels, on climate change. And that's terrible. That's a huge disservice to the

American. What should we be doing instead? Well, you know, think of one thing, the so-called

inflation reduction act oddly was supported by eggs on mobile. It's basically a climate

bill and it was supported by eggs on mobile. So there's a lot of money to be made actually

in new energy. Of course, there's still a lot of money in fossil fuels, but there are

a lot of people who are invested in new energy and will make a lot of money off of it. And

a lot of those people are Republican donors. A lot of those people are, you know, in the

consulting world. And I think that has some influence over it, but to your point, on

a broader level, I mean, when I was researching the PC reference, I was looking at a study

from Berkeley that crunched the number since 2005 or six and of the truly insane amount

of money that has been spent in federal subsidies since the Bush administration, the majority

of it, something like 65% has gone to upper energy. And federal subsidies for green energy,

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