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The Chuck ToddCast

What if Scalia hadn’t died in 2016? With David French

The Chuck ToddCast

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Government, News

4.02.8K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Meet the Alternative History: Chuck takes a dive into alternate timelines to see how history would have evolved if one thing had changed. Episode 4: What if Scalia hadn’t died in 2016? With David French

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello there and happy holidays, as you know I've been playing the Ghost of Christmas

0:09.0

past here and I have one more alternative political history to play out.

0:14.4

This episode, what of Supreme Court justice, Antony N. Scalia, did not die before the 2016

0:20.0

election and was a surprise when he died in February back here.

0:23.5

With Donald Trump still been elected by conservatives who were worried about filling the seat.

0:27.7

Hi guys, today is someone with a little skin in this game, it's Colin and David French,

0:30.5

senior editor at the Dispatch.

0:32.1

And for a brief period, he's someone who considered his own run for president in 2016 or at least

0:36.6

had people trying to talk him to it.

0:38.4

So Mr. French, welcome to our little thought experiment here.

0:44.4

Yeah, well thanks so much for having me and it's a fascinating thought experiment.

0:48.2

Yeah, look, I've been doing this the first episode we did was what it built Clinton

0:53.2

had resigned in 98.

0:54.5

Yeah.

0:55.5

And we played it all the way through 04, including 9-11, you know, and noting that that would

1:00.5

have been nine straight years of democratic intelligence.

1:04.0

We sort of assumed it might have got more politicized due to that.

1:07.3

Anyway, went through some interesting scenarios there because we assumed Gore won in 2000

1:11.9

as a reelected president in that scenario.

1:14.5

So anyway, the point is there's always, there's multiple things that suddenly are impacted

1:20.3

when you can change one event.

1:22.7

And I don't think, I think when a lot of people talk about 2016, they don't fully appreciate

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