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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"What Hitchens Would Make of the Left" with Matt Johnson

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Despite his reputation as a defector to neoconservatism, Christopher Hitchens was more faithfully committed to liberal principles than many on the left today: Free expression, internationalism, individual rights and universalism as opposed to identity politics. That’s the argument Matt Johnson makes in his book, How Hitchens Can Save the Left: Rediscovering Fearless Liberalism in an Age of Counter-Enlightenment.

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0:00.0

Good-A, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. And it wasn't always

0:07.0

safe for the one and only Christopher Hitchens to express some of his more dangerous ideas. It was frequently quite hazardous.

0:14.0

But express them nonetheless he did. Ideas like the idea that one of the worst people ever to walk the face of the planet was Mother Teresa,

0:21.6

the idea that former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger,

0:25.6

ought to be behind bars in the International Court of Criminal Justice.

0:30.6

These are ideas that he held so fervently he even wrote books about each of them.

0:34.6

In fact, there probably isn't a contrarian provocative idea

0:40.0

that would get you uninvited or kicked out of polite dinner parties

0:45.4

on both sides of the political aisle

0:47.3

that Christopher Hitchens didn't at some point countenance.

0:51.6

That's what made him so beloved and so loathed.

0:53.7

If you're not familiar with Hitch,

0:55.6

his books have been profoundly important on me. He was one of the most incredible fiery, passionate,

1:01.9

articulate defenders of reason and smaller liberalism, and indeed before that, socialism,

1:08.3

that we've had.

1:15.7

Letter to a young contrarian was an extraordinary book.

1:20.5

God is not great is an extraordinary broadside against religion.

1:24.2

And so many of his speeches and debates on YouTube that you can look up just show this sparkling, fascinating mind.

1:28.9

Today's guest, Matt Johnson, has written a terrific book about Hitchens' impact on the left

1:34.1

and I suppose how sorely missed he is after a premature death in today's culture war debates in

1:41.2

particular.

1:42.4

Matt, today's guest, writes of Hitchens in an article about him on the Bullwark,

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