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🗓️ 27 August 2025
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While Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook's lawyer says she will sue to challenge the president's move to fire her, the White House is reportedly getting ready to appoint Cook’s replacement. Today, we'll unpack how this battle is impacting markets as the Trump administration continues to test the limits of its authority. And later, we'll hear about tariff-related anxiety from India, including from a South Indian hub supplying global clothing brands and Mumbai’s diamond workshops.
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0:00.0 | An update now on President Trump's push to fire a Federal Reserve governor who votes on interest rate policy. |
0:08.7 | I'm David Brancaccio. Fed Governor Lisa Cook's lawyer says she will sue to challenge the president's move to oust her. |
0:15.9 | Let's turn to Peter Conte Brown. He teaches financial regulation, legal studies, and business ethics at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. Professor, welcome. |
0:25.1 | Glad to be here. There is a published report that the White House is getting ready to appoint Lisa Cook's replacement now. Do you think if it comes to that, two people jostling for the same office, essentially, that this could affect markets in the real economy? |
0:39.7 | Unquestionably. Markets hate uncertainty. And that's all the truer when we're talking about |
0:45.2 | uncertainty of Fed policy to individuals creating kind of a two popes situation with the Federal Reserve |
0:53.9 | is the very definition of |
0:55.4 | uncertainty. So far the public has not seen evidence Fed Governor Cook did anything wrong with |
1:01.4 | an old mortgage. To fire her, do you think the Trump administration needs to just show that |
1:07.3 | evidence or would have to go further and actually prove a case? |
1:16.0 | You know, we have so little to go on in terms of what constitutes a fireable offense. |
1:20.7 | The Supreme Court very recently just said that the president can fire just about anybody in the federal government, but in that same order, the Supreme Court said the Federal Reserve is |
1:24.3 | different. It just didn't explain how. My strong sense, based on case |
1:28.5 | law and other related contexts, is that acts taken by Lisa Cook private citizen before her |
1:35.1 | public service would be off limits, that the fireball offense has to be related to conduct |
1:40.4 | that occurred during her office. But it also means that litigation will follow. |
1:45.8 | Yeah, and it isn't just an informal test of the Trump administration's authority. It could be |
1:51.6 | the administration argues in court that restrictions on a president's ability to fire a Fed official, |
1:58.3 | that law violates the Constitution. It could make that very argument. Now, |
2:02.6 | that would be a different argument than they just made just months ago. The Trump administration |
2:06.3 | insisted that the Constitution protects the president's ability to fire anyone. And then the |
2:10.9 | Trump administration insisted, but by the way, the Constitution protects the Federal Reserve |
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