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Explain It to Me

What happens to voting rights now?

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Dylan Matthews and Jerusalem Demsas talk with Emily Rong Zhang, a PhD candidate in political science at Stanford and a former Skadden Fellow at the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, about the recent attempts in Congress to pass voting rights legislation. And, a white paper about voter ID laws, written by Emily herself! References: Recapping Congress’s failed voting rights push Why some Dem strategists were skeptical of the effort The case for fixing the Electoral Count Act What happens after the voting rights fights White Paper: “What the Debate over Voter ID Laws' Effects Teaches about Asking the Right Questions” Hosts: Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), senior correspondent, Vox Jerusalem Demsas (@jerusalemdemsas), policy reporter, Vox Credits: Sofi LaLonde, producer and engineer Libby Nelson, editorial adviser Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weedsletter Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Weeds. I'm Dylan Matthews, and I'm joined today by Weeds co-host Jerusalem Dumsys.

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Hello.

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I'm Emily Wrongzang. Hi.

1:35.0

Emily is a former scatten fellow at the ACLU Voting Rights Project, and she's currently a PhD candidate in political science at Stanford, and she's a bona fide expert on the empirical social science and the law of voting rights.

1:49.0

So we thought she was a perfect person to bring on to talk about what's been happening with voting rights in America.

1:54.0

So this past week, the Senate rejected rules changes that would have allowed it to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, as well as the Freedom to Vote Act, which were two of the biggest pieces of voting legislation that the Senate has considered in many years, and we've done a wide variety of things from combating gerrymandering to reducing barriers to voting in various states, and was a real central push for the Democratic leadership that came up short.

2:19.0

Before we dive into the details here and the complexities of law and political science of voting, Jerusalem, can you break down what these bills that were up for votes would actually do?

2:29.0

Totally. So I think I'm like many people who were following this debate. I completely lost the plot on how many different bills there actually were.

2:36.0

So HR1 has been around since like 2019, and that's the big one that a lot of people kind of know about. It's called the For the People Act.

2:43.0

And there were a bunch of different pieces in that. It included things like voting accessibility, it included ethics in the federal government, big money in elections, election security, and gerrymandering of the House of Representatives.

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So it was a big bill, and it was around before January 6th, but obviously it was really picked up in the aftermath of that last year, as people were obviously, you know, rightfully horrified by the events that took place that day.

3:07.0

That did not pass. And there were basically two different kinds of bills that end up coming out over the last year. There's the Freedom to Vote Act, and then there's the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

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The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act does a bunch of things as well, but one of the big things that it did was trying to restore the pre-clearance requirement, which was part of the Voting Rights Act that had been kind of really decimated after the Shelby decision from the Supreme Court.

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