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What happened to the racist fucking asshole dick officials of the American Confederacy after the end of the Civil War?

Welcome to Getting Curious. On today's episode, we have an incredible speaker, PhD, lecturer from the University of Texas at Austin, Robert Eisenhower.

Now, we're going to be covering a very interesting subject, honey, that is devastating, slash interesting, slash, I think there's a lot of things that we can glean from this, even now today, because, you know, I think through history, I just get really curious about how it still affects us today.

So the question is, what happened to all the generals of the Confederate States after the Civil War?

Thank God you're an expert in that, honey. You're a historian and you have a PhD with an emphasis in the Civil War, which that qualifies you as a historian, I guess, right?

Oh, yeah, my PhD is a history.

Hello. Yeah. That's amazing. So thanks so much. Welcome.

Well, thank you for having me. You're our first Texas guest. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you're my first getting curious. Oh, wait, actually, that's a full lie because I had windy Davis on when I was in Texas last time.

So you actually my second, but that's an incredible person to be second to. So I agree. Right. So, okay, so let's set the stage. The Civil War starts in 1861.

Correct.

And it basically, I think the way that we think about it now, the way I understand it is like a non college educated like hairdresser who's 32 who hasn't been in school, you know, in a long time.

It's like, it's over the issue of slavery and the Northern States take the position that obviously like we shouldn't have slavery. The Southern States take the position that we that they should. It's too important to their economy.

War ends up in suing. It's from 1861 to 1865 when the Northern States win. And then my question is because like, don't the Confederates have a president of ice president, like a fully functioning cabinet. Did they have ambassadors?

Like, and then what happens to all of them? Right. Right. Well, they did have a fully functioning government. And Jefferson Davis was the president of the Confederacy.

Alexander Stevens was the vice president of the Confederacy. And they Jefferson Davis near the end of the war began to try to flee from Richmond.

He was warned by Robert E Lee that the Confederate Army could not withstand the Union Army for much longer. Lee advised him to leave the the Capitol and try to link up with someone further south.

Joseph Johnston's army. And so Davis leaves Richmond at that point at the very end of the war.

And in 1965 in 1865 and Richmond is the Capitol. You just right. Richmond is a Capitol of the Confederacy, which is only about 90 miles from Washington, DC. So both capitals were very close to each other.

There was a lot of warfare that went on between those two capitals and grant had finally sort of forced Lee into a trench warfare and surrounded Richmond and Petersburg and was putting an immense amount of pressure on Lee's army.

Okay, wait, wait, wait. Yes, because you are slaying my life right now, comma, just to set the stage because earlier today I was talking to my this amazing person who, but when I said they're British. And when I said, you know, the Confederate states, they were like, what is like, and I was like, oh, that's like what the Southern states were called when they were like going to break away. And so just really quick grant is you list these S grant.

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