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Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

What's up, STS Nation, and welcome to another episode of

Surviving the survivor of the

podcast that promises to bring you the very best

guess in all of true crime.

And today, Great Scott,

that's a true crime, Phil.

A show's so good, it happens every Friday,

thanks to these two great guests.

For those who do not know, Phil Waters is America's most respected detective.

He's been working since the 1700s.

He solved over 400 homicide cases.

He is the chairman, CEO, founder, Executive Director of Kindred Spirits Investigations, and he was a

star of the show The Interrogator.

Scott Duffy is currently the director of the Wilmington University's Criminal Justice

Institute. Is that right Scott? Did they get the word incorrect? Yes.

Beautiful. Scott is also a former supervisory agent with the FBI out of Delaware.

That means he was the boss.

And he did all sorts of things, drugs, murders, all the bad things. He would catch all the bad guys.

And he's a good guy, ironically.

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