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with Indeed. Hey everybody. This is Andrew Eger with The Bullwork. It has been an absolutely insane weekend at the Pentagon.

Obviously, you know, the breaking news right now is that we have, we may or may not now be at war with Iran.

Guess we're going to find out a lot more about that. We did a live stream about that earlier this morning.

We're here to talk about something completely different happening at the Pentagon. A very crazy story. We thought it was going to be the craziest story

out of the military, certainly this week, until it was superseded by events, but maybe a story with

just as important of long-term repercussions. We're going to find out. We're talking about the

Department of Defense's spat, which is now sort of blown up into an all-out war

against the AI company Anthropic, perhaps better known to you guys out there as the producer

of the chatbot Claude. They have gone basically nuclear in this fight with this AI producer

that was formerly a top defense contractor for the DOD.

And I have just been following this story in my newsletter and morning shots for the last week or so.

But it's obviously a much longer story that's just kind of coming to ahead now.

So I'm very glad to be joined by Hayden Field to talk all through this.

She is a senior AI reporter for The Verge.

She knows all this stuff backwards and forwards. So Hayden, thanks for coming on to talk about this story today. Yeah, thanks so much for having me. It's been a crazy week for sure. Oh, my lord. Okay. So let's just start. Maybe you can give us just kind of the preexisting, like two weeks ago. we were at a very different status quo. There were like

inklings that this fight was happening. Can you just kind of walk us through how things have fallen

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