What Happened to "America's Mayor"?

The Gist

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🗓️ 20 August 2018

⏱️ 32 minutes

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On The Gist, how will Rudy Giuliani go down in history, and in public memory? The midterm elections are looming, and the big question is how far the Democrats will go. Are they really likely to retake the House of Representatives? And how would that affect Trump's re-election campaign in 2020? Gist guest host Steve Kornacki talks to another political statistics wiz, Sean Trende of RealClearPolitics, about why we should be wary of using probabilities to predict elections. In the Spiel, a tale of clear state borders and unclear rules. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	There is a bit of explicit content in the podcast you're about to hear.
0:08.6	It's Monday, August 20th, 2018 from Slate. It's the gist, I'm Steve Kronacki, sitting in for Mike
0:14.8	Peska. So it happened yesterday on Meet the Press. Rudy Giuliani said something that absolutely
0:22.7	lit the political world on fire. He said truth isn't truth. And he was talking about Donald Trump
0:30.8	and the prospect of him testifying the prospect of him sitting down and talking at least to
0:35.6	special counsel Robert Mueller and his team. And Rudy Giuliani said that. Chuktad seemed to
0:41.3	react with bafflement. And there was all sorts of coverage of it throughout the day and the night.
0:46.4	And we figured it was going to dominate the headlines Monday. But you know how things end up
0:51.2	going more often than not these days. Something that feels huge happens at nine in the morning.
0:56.4	We all start dissecting it. We all start trying to play out all the implications. And then about
1:01.4	three hours later, something that seems even more world shattering will happen. Then we all forget
1:06.4	about the first thing. We move on to the new thing. And then that thing gets eclipsed and forgotten
1:10.7	by something even bigger or bigger seeming if you happen to blink on Sunday and miss it though.
1:16.4	Here is the full exchange. And when you tell me that you know, he should testify because
1:20.8	he's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry. Well, that's so silly because if somebody's
1:24.8	version of the truth, not the truth, he didn't have a a conversation about. I don't mean to go like.
1:30.9	No, it isn't truth. Truth isn't truth. The president of the United States says I didn't. Truth is
1:36.6	in truth. Mr. Mayor, do you realize what I? Now in a way, this isn't new. Giuliani emerged as one
1:42.9	of Donald Trump's most prominent supporters late in the 2016 campaign. He had a shot to become
1:48.5	his attorney general. Now he is his top lawyer. And through all of this time, Giuliani's attempts to
1:54.6	promote or to defend or to explain away something Trump has said or done have produced a number of
2:00.8	moments like this where he is the subject of withering contempt from popular culture and even
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