Hey Jim Daley here. If you like the focus on the family broadcast and haven't

grown tired of this voice just yet, you'll love my ReFocus podcast. On ReFocus I

take a deeper dive with a respected thinker on different aspects of culture. I

ask those hard questions that maybe they don't get that often and I don't

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marriage podcast. I remember sitting across the table over breakfast with a

colleague who said I'm just not in love anymore. It's just not working. But

honestly seasons come and seasons go and there might be a moment when you

don't feel like you're in love. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't stay in the

marriage. I'm John Fuller joined in the studio by Greg and Aaron Smalley. They

head up our marriage team here at the Ministry in Aaron. You do a lot of

counseling with couples. How often do you hear that I want out of this marriage

because I just don't feel like it's working anymore. I hear it all the time and

I love when I hear it because it's so easy to diffuse that and to say you know

it okay so you're not feeling in level that just tells me your heart's closed.

And people look at me like you're crazy. But really the truth is we don't create

love. God creates love. So if our heart's closed we're not going to feel love.

And so I keep my little Rolly Pulley puppet next to my chair in my office and I

pull it out and I say it's kind of like this. You know this little Rolly Pulley

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