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Intelligence Squared

What Exactly Is Western Civilisation?

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Intelligence Squared

News, Society & Culture, Arts, News Commentary

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

We tend to imagine Western Civilisation as a golden thread connecting ancient Greece to modern Europe, from Plato to NATO. But what if the idea itself is deeply flawed? Historian and archaeologist Naoíse Mac Sweeney's recent book, The West: A New History of an Old Idea, argues that our understanding of the West is deeply misleading and obscures the rich diversity of our past. Drawing on the lives of characters throughout history – including a formidable Roman matriarch and an unconventional Islamic scholar – Mac Sweeney says that the dominant narrative of Western history is an invention which has been used to justify imperialism and racism, and is no longer ideologically fit for purpose today. Discussing the book with Mac Sweeney is fellow author and columnist at The Times, Edward Lucas. We’d love to hear your feedback and what you think we should talk about next, who we should have on and what our future debates should be about. Send us an email or voice note with your thoughts to podcasts@intelligencesquared.com.  At Intelligence Squared we’ve got our own online streaming platform, Intelligence Squared+ and we’d love you to give it a go. It’s packed with more than 20 years’ worth of video debates and conversations on the world’s most important topics as well as exclusive podcast content. Tune in to live events, ask your questions or watch on-demand, totally ad-free with hours of discussion to dive into. Visit intelligencesquaredplus.com to start watching today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I mean, Sirling, and today I'm at a McCain Potato Field.

0:04.0

Being chased by a massive war!

0:06.0

It's just a lady bird, Ian.

0:08.0

Well, it had a real war spanner, Jay.

0:10.0

Why are they here?

0:12.0

Well, we plot wildflowers to help encourage wildlife.

0:14.0

Like birds and insects.

0:16.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:18.0

Yeah, exactly. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:22.0

Okay, this time it's definitely a war sp.

0:24.0

My life's in danger.

0:26.0

Ian, that's a butterfly.

0:28.0

Let's all chip in.

0:30.0

Hello, I'm Ian Sirling, and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their potatoes.

0:34.0

Hang on, these are odd-looking potatoes.

0:36.0

That's kale, Ian.

0:38.0

You do know you need potato to make chips, right?

0:40.0

Yes, but we don't just grow potatoes.

0:42.0

We actually rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy.

0:46.0

So, we eat McCain chips. I'm helping do some good.

0:48.0

Exactly, yeah. You're supporting the move to regenerative farming.

0:52.0

By the way, I do know the difference between kale and potatoes.

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