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KERA's Think

What elitists and populists have in common

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8861 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

 How often do political parties actually trust voters to know what’s best for them?  Curtis Bram, a political scientist at The University of Texas at Dallas, joins host Krys Boyd to discuss the two sides of modern governing: elitism and populism, and questions whose job it is to actually protect democracy —voters or politicians? His book is “Elitism versus Populism: Experiments on the Dual Threat to American Democracy.” 

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0:00.0

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0:06.9

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0:09.5

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0:10.9

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0:16.5

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0:19.3

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0:22.1

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0:25.5

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0:28.1

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0:32.1

Listen to everybody's business wherever you get your podcasts.

0:48.4

Midterm elections are next year, and historically they often result in the president's party losing some seats in Congress.

0:51.4

Republican lawmakers in Texas want to change the boundaries around voting districts

0:55.4

in hopes of protecting the GOP House majority, and Democratic lawmakers in some blue states are now

1:00.7

talking through plans to take similar retaliatory action to benefit their party. All this raises

1:06.4

an interesting question. Who is more likely to support fair political competition, citizens or the

1:12.6

politicians they elect? From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. Populists worry elites

1:19.8

in charge will overlook what matters to the majority. Elitists worry, many members of the

1:24.5

public, don't understand the issues they're voting on. And pretty much

1:27.7

everybody assumes their ideological or partisan adversaries would be willing to subvert

1:32.4

democratic principles to give their side an advantage. But you know what they say about

1:37.1

assumptions? My guest is a political scientist who devised some clever studies to test how much

1:42.9

daylight can be found between the principles of populists and idealists.

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