I learned the hard way that the communication in this arena is absolutely vital. It's really important because we're in such a limited timeframe to get this message across effectively.

You can say, hey, here's a way we can stabilize the climate where we boost the world economy rather than cripple the world economy. You won't have to have politicians pass laws.

But people see a strong economic motivation to stabilize the climate. They'll do it tomorrow. And frankly, I think we need to do it tomorrow.

You're listening to unbelievable with Justin Broerley.

Hello and welcome back to the show that gets you thinking. Talking maybe even doing something too because climate change is the subject today as COP26 continues.

I'll introduce my guests shortly. Thanks for the feedback to last week's CS Lewis movie show, by the way, and excited to be able to announce some fresh theatrical release dates in the US and UK that Max McLean has sent me so well.

I'll give you that towards the end of the show along with this week's feedback. For more from the show, go to our show page premierChristianradio.com forward slash unbelievable.

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For now, let's leap into today's very timely discussion.

Well, today we're asking what does the science of climate change tell us about the future of the world COP26, the UN Climate Change Conference is underway in Glasgow.

In recent years, the predictions around climate change have become increasingly apocalyptic. The most recent IPCC report warns that we are approaching a tipping point and that greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced to net zero by 2050 for a climate crisis to be averted.

While activist groups like Extinction Rebellion are becoming ever more extreme in some ways in their protests, other so-called Luke Warmers believe that there's too much alarmism among climate change activists that the picture isn't necessarily as bleak as painted.

So what does the science of climate change actually say? What constitutes a reasonable and ultimately Christian approach to tackling it?

Hugh Ross and Antonio Godber join me to talk it through on today's show. Hugh Ross is the founder of the Faith and Science Ministry, reasons to believe he's an astrophysicist by background.

And his recent book, Weathering Climate Change, says that the Earth has been in an unusually long period of climate stability and he looks at the data for recent climate change advocating for a non-alarmist approach to providing practical solutions.

Antonio Godber is a climate change campaigner who's passionate about encouraging sustainable and ethical lifestyles to ensure future generations can inherit a healthy planet.

She'll also be contributing to an online COP26 coalition event this weekend actually on how to talk to kids and parents about climate.

That's in conjunction with parents for future who she's working with and we'll make sure there are links to both Antonio and Hugh with the show today and I'll mention them later on as well.

So Antonio and Hugh welcome along to the show. Thank you.

Thank you.

Great to have you both with me. Antonio, we'll start with you as someone who's new to the show though we've known each other as I've mentioned on a previous, unbelievable show as childhood friends.

And we recently came into each other's orbit again through Instagram and and you very kindly accepted this invitation to come to come on the show having listened for a little while.

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