Not another one. Welcome to the podcast. Well, it's normally with me, Tim Montgomery,

with Steve Richards, with Ian Martin Martin and Miranda Green. But today Miranda

they've abandoned us. I know. We're just the two of us and we've, I did one podcast in the early

days with Steve alone. I thought it was sort of a party conference special. Okay. But what do you mean

okay? You just as if you hadn't, you didn't listen to it. Of course I did, but I don't, I don't, yeah, I feel like, I feel like usually we're quarate at three. Three, yeah. Don't you think? Yeah. And today it's just down to the two of us. You know, my neighbour Alan, who talks a lot about the...

Oh, yeah. Hello, Alan.

I told him and said, just me and Miranda today.

And he said, oh, just be a girls talk.

Which I don't think was made as a compliment.

But anyway, it's...

Well, I've been looking forward to it.

I've been looking forward to our little chat, actually.

I look forward to seeing you every...

And you've been busy with sort of on the domestic front, haven't you?

I have. I'm sure lots of our listeners will relate, as the Americans say.

I'm sort of in the process of downsizing my mum,

and it's day eight of a really complicated kind of removals

trying to exchange contracts on selling her old flat.

Oh my goodness gracious me.

And the thing is, it's also this very emotionally charged process

of going through all my mum and dad's stuff,

and for anyone who's also doing that at the moment or has done it. It's quite emotionally exhausting. When did you lose your dad, Miranda? About two years ago. And he was very ill. You know, he had dementia, which is quite an experience for the whole family. And then he had a stroke on top of the dementia, so it was really difficult at the end. And it meant also because of COVID.

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