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What Does It Mean to Live in God’s Presence?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2015

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

For Christians indwelt by the Spirit, God is always in us and with us. But sometimes, he exerts his influence for our good in unique, unmistakeable ways.

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I'm struck by Psalm 21 verse 6, which says, you may glad with the joy of your presence.

0:24.5

God is omnipresent. What does this mean to be in God's presence now?

0:31.6

I think the first thing I should say is that the biblical writers were not naive

0:38.2

in the sense that they thought God had a body with spatial dimensions so that he could have a

0:46.7

locality in the universe. Stephen said in Acts 7, the most high does not dwell in houses made

0:58.0

by hands, the point being he's not that kind of being. Therefore, I think all the biblical imagery

1:07.8

about drawing near to God or departing from God or being in the before the face of God,

1:19.2

which is, by the way, the literal translation of presence. The word presence is almost always

1:24.9

translating the Hebrew panei or panim and means face. I think all of those images are metaphors

1:36.0

or pictures. And I'll mention what their metaphors are in just a minute, but

1:42.4

let me stick in a qualifier perhaps first. To be sure, God ordained in the Old Testament that his

1:50.3

quote, presence be directly associated with the tabernacle in the wilderness or the temple

1:57.3

in Jerusalem so that people could speak of entering into God's presence

2:03.3

in the sense that they came near to the place where he had appointed his name, especially to

2:10.2

dwell or to be identified with. And in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus into the world,

2:16.4

we now have God in human flesh, which does have spatial dimension. And we can go right up to him

2:26.0

and touch him or we can walk right away from him like Judas did. Jesus could be touched here.

2:34.2

He could be kissed here. Indeed, even today, I think we could think that way about Jesus in our

2:43.1

dying. Second Corinthians 5, 6, we're always of good courage. We know that while we're at home in

2:51.5

the body, we are away from the Lord. We walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are a good courage

2:58.3

and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. And what he means,

3:07.2

I think, is literally the incarnate God-man, Jesus Christ, exists in dimensions that we don't fully

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