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In what some would say is a vacuum of ideology at the heart of Kirstama's government,

we're hearing about other Labour factions trying to gain influence, particularly Blue Labour.

But what is Blue Labour?

I'm Anusha Kellyan and this is the New Statesman podcast.

Today, my colleague, Rachel Cunliffe and I are joined by our guest Morgan Jones. Morgan is a writer

who specialises in reporting on the politics of the Labour Party and Trade Union movement and is also co-editor of renewal, a Labour-aligned journal. Morgan is a writer who specialises in reporting on the politics of the Labour Party and Trade Union movement and is also co-editor of renewal, a Labour-aligned journal.

Morgan's written for the new statement on Blue Labour and how they're trying to remake the party and influence the government.

So Morgan, for the uninitiated, what is Blue Labour and what are their origins?

Blue Labour was founded in the kind of very, very tail end of the New Labor years

and sort of has it sort of primary genesis around a kind of group of of seminars

that were held in Oxford at the start of the Miliband years.

And it's basically a sort of, there was the feeling that New Labour had become sort of disconnected from like real people's concerns.

It had moved away from kind of communitarianism.

It was sort of soulless and global.

And, you know, the sort of thing about Tony Blair saying you can't, you know, debating globalization is like debating which, you know, the winter comes after autumn or whatever the precise quote is, that that's what they needed to resist.

Yeah.

And so it had a kind of moment of excitement in, you know, sort of 2010, 2011.

Morris Glassman, who's obviously one of the leading figures of the Blue Labor movement,

along with people like Jonathan Rutherford and John Crudders,

was elevated test floods by Ed Miliband, largely as sort of part of this moment.

And it's having a bit of a renaissance now in a slightly different guys?

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