A quick warning that this episode contains references to death and some strong language.

You know, I think of a quote by James Baldwin, you think your pain and your heartbreak are

unprecedented in the history of the world.

Then you read.

And I think really, like, situating myself inside of, you know, being bookish has allowed

me an understanding to know that my, you know, my story is not particularly unique.

I mean, when you really think about it, like the suffering of the world and the amount

of loss that so many of us endure, my story is not unique.

I'm Nora Mcnerney and this is terrible.

Thanks for asking.

And that was Jumeel O'Lewale-Kasako.

And what he's saying is true.

Something happens to us, something big, something monumental, apparent dies.

Your husband dies.

The job is lost.

We're all from burns to the ground and we are suddenly different from everyone around

us.

Our suffering makes us special.

And then we realize that it doesn't.

Maybe we start a podcast for that very reason.

Just to remind people that everyone goes through stuff.

And maybe still, sometimes, we lose sight of that fact.

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