It just silenced the voices of these people who did not receive adequate care and to not

bring like start talking about like the problems in the field and start to figure out ways to

improve it.

I think is ridiculous and misguided.

You know, I think that that is not the solution to helping trans people.

I mean, my career is devoted to helping this population.

You know, it's like, this is my passion, this is all I do and my work.

And the last thing I want to do is hurt the community,

but I don't see having these conversations as hurting the community.

I think that this is the only way the field's going to move forward. Welcome to the unspeakable podcast. I'm your host, Megan Dome. Back in July, I did an

interview with two women calling themselves Jolene and Marie. The focus of that show had to do with something that is incredibly fraught,

the issue of kids identifying as transgender and what parents should do if those kids,

or the kids' therapist, advocate for a medicalized path. In other words, taking hormone blockers

or cross-sex hormones to begin a physical transition.

In the case of that interview, I was approached by a group of parents that knew I had covered

this sort of thing before and wanted to know if I would do an episode on an aspect of the

issue that had not been covered as much, and that is biological boys identifying as transgender in what

appears, at least to their parents, to be a rather sudden manner. Up until that point,

much of the discussion had been around biological girls. I did the interview with Jolene and

Marie, and those are pseudonyms, on the condition that I would follow it up relatively quickly

with interviews from people who might see things differently. Ideally, a therapist or a clinician

who works in the affirmative care model, and by affirmative care, we generally mean a clinician

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