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Hello, I'm welcome to your coffee and house shots,

spectators daily politics podcast. I'm Isabelle Harbman and I'm joined by James

Forsyth and Katie Bulls. Well, it's the week of the Sue Gray report and there's lots of

bickering partly about a meeting that Boris Johnson and Sue Gray had to discuss the publication

of her interim report and who decided to have it. James, why have we ended up having this big

rower by Admin? So it came out that there had been a meeting between Boris Johnson and Sue Gray

and then Eliza Boris Johnson for a quick save that Sue Gray had requested the meeting, not them,

and so it was unfair to criticize him for it. That turned out to be not the full picture in that

yes, Sue Gray's office had sent the technical invitation to the meeting, but they'd sent the

technical invitation to the meeting after a message from number 10 suggesting a meeting might be

a good idea. So it was more going to find a time in that. And I think that there is a lot of

concerning government, even among some of Boris Johnson's closest allies, about the rower

at number 10 or some people in number 10 appear to have picked with Sue Gray. Let's look at the

front page of today's Daily Mail and sense that this is not intonally sensible considering that

A, you know, not that she's going to change her report, but that, you know, she is going to have to

give evidence, I suspect, to the privileges committee investigation to whether Boris Johnson

is like the House or not. And so falling out with her would not be the smartest thing to do.

So I think that you will now, I suspect for today's statement at lobby that, you know, actually

number 10 had started the whole ball rolling on this, is in an attempt to kind of calm things down

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