This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. Thank you for joining us.

Thank you for joining us. Today we're gonna be talking about crime rates, harm reduction, how

blue Democratic cities are taking some approaches that seem more conservative, and

how we really want to talk about effectiveness more than anything else. Then

outside of politics we're going to head Then outside of politics, we're going to the mall,

guys, we're going to them all, come with us.

If today's conversation about crime is interesting to you,

I hope that you might listen to an episode of more

to say that I made last week.

I listened to the State of the Union last week. I pulled out some sentences that

really spoke to me. One of them was the President's claim that America is

safer now than when he took office and I wanted to sort of both

fact check and context check that so if you've been on the fence about becoming a

premium member or you haven't taken advantage of the two-week free trial that you can get on either

Patreon or Apple podcast subscriptions.

This is a great time to do that.

That episode goes really nicely with this one.

Next up, we're going to talk about the crime rate. Beth, we seem to be having a major conversation about crime, drug addiction, law and order,

across the country. You just did a more to say on the violent crime

rate following up on some of Joe Biden's claims in the state of the Union and the

interesting part about this conversation is that in the data the violent crime rate has gone down.

When President Biden said America is safer now than when he took office I felt

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