What Did Todd Gabler Find Inside the Richins Home That Police Left Behind?
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 27 May 2026
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Summary
After law enforcement released the Richins home, Todd Gabler walked in and spent four or five straight days searching it. GoPro cameras running. Documents scanned. Eric's brother-in-law Clint Benson present or aware the entire time. No officers. No oversight from the Sheriff's Office. Just a PI operating under rules that gave him access a detective would need a warrant to get.
He found things. Items the initial search hadn't turned up. When he came across what looked like protected attorney-client documents, he put them in a sealed envelope unread and handed them over to the appropriate attorney. That's discipline most people wouldn't expect from someone working outside the system — and it's why the defense's attempt to paint him as a rogue operator fell apart on the stand.
In Part 2 of this three-part interview, Gabler tells Tony Brueski what he discovered during that search, how it felt to be outrunning a stalled police investigation, and what the Richins family went through while waiting over a year for the system to catch up to what one man with a cane and two hard drives already knew.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Bruske. Here now, Tony Bruske. |
| 0:06.1 | By fall of 2022, the Summit County Sheriff's investigation and Eric's death had stalled. |
| 0:12.0 | Deputy Jamie Wood, or Woody, testified to that. Meanwhile, Gabbler had already identified |
| 0:19.0 | Carmen Lauer, flagged her uh... drug court |
| 0:21.4 | history started uh... feeding the sheriff's office information that they didn't have |
| 0:25.8 | the flow went one direction |
| 0:29.0 | for eric's family that gap between what gambler was finding and what law |
| 0:33.8 | enforcement was doing with it wasn't very abstract it was whether anyone would ever be ever held accountable as the main question there. |
| 0:43.3 | Todd is with us today. |
| 0:44.3 | Todd Gavler, the private investigator for Eric Richens and his family, the man you saw during the trial testifying. |
| 0:57.5 | And he is with us today to continue this conversation, breaking down his findings in this case. |
| 1:02.9 | Carmen Lauber, we're at this point entering into the story, and the cast of characters |
| 1:09.8 | that come along with Carmen Lauber. Obviously, you saw a lot of |
| 1:14.0 | communications between Carmen and Corey via the devices and such. What was standing out to you? |
| 1:23.3 | Why did that flag do? She was a housekeeper. There was somewhat of a relationship there, |
| 1:28.0 | but what made you go, |
| 1:29.4 | this seems like there could be something deeper? |
| 1:32.0 | A couple of things. |
| 1:33.5 | First of all, Carmen was close to Eric and the boys. |
| 1:38.4 | She liked them. |
| 1:40.1 | She was inside the house, cleaning the house. |
| 1:43.6 | But she is conspicuously absent from Eric's |
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