Hi Cougat listeners, this is Julisa Arse and you're listening to Cougat Conversations.

Today's Cougat Conversation was recorded last week before some breaking news that 21 Savage

will be released on Bond.

And so what you'll hear is an update at the beginning of the conversations with Astrid

Silva who works with immigrants in her community.

She has tons of experience unfortunately with deportation cases.

And so she's going to talk to us about what it means that he's been released on Bond and why his fight is not over yet

and why so many immigrants who are still in detention are facing these circumstances.

In the second part of the conversation you're going to hear from Jonathan J's green

who is a black immigrant, black undocumented immigrant, and he talked to us about what it has meant to him to see a spotlight

being shed on the black immigrant experience in the United States.

And what the media got wrong about the 21 Savage situation and how so many of us don't know how to even talk about the black immigrant experience.

This conversation continues to be so relevant because again, just because 21 Savage is out on bail doesn't mean that he is free and clear from deportations.

He still has to go to a deportation hearing that fight could last months, it could last years.

So the fight is not over and I hope that you give this conversation a listen and that you enjoy.

Thanks.

Astrid, thank you so much for joining us from a cell phone in Las Vegas, Nevada.

I really appreciate you taking the time so last minute to join us on this developing news that 21 Savage has been granted Bond, which is great.

However, you know, we both know that that's that's hardly the end of his immigration battle.

So I'm wondering if you can take us through just in your experience from the cases that you've worked on and people that you've helped.

What happens now?

Thank you. And yeah, as a community advocate, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but we've seen a lot of our families fall into this process.

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