I'm Arthur Snell. A major war is taking place on the European continent with Russia's

invasion of Ukraine. Bringing you a series of special episodes to help you understand

the crisis as it unfolds. This is Doomsday Watch.

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the links in the show notes. Hello, we recorded this episode last Friday, so that's before

Russia's devastating attack on a shopping center on Monday. We spoke to Dan Kajeta about

Russia's escalation in light of his own expertise, particularly in the field of chemical and

biological weapons. I hope you find it interesting.

Today I'm talking to Dan Kajeta, who's a former US military and secret service officer

and an expert on chemical and biological weapons. He's an author of a fascinating book

called Toxic, the history of those weapons. Dan, welcome. Thank you, Arthur. Happy to

be here.

As we have this conversation, the war in Ukraine rages on, but the actual movement on the

ground has, in the words of a Western official I spoke to the other day, has become glacial.

Both sides appear to have got bogged down. The Russians aren't able to force their way

into all of the Donbass territory they seek to claim, but the Ukrainians aren't able

to force them back out again. So, in a context like this, is this the sort of environment

in which the Russians might turn to something like the use of chemical weapons?

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