What Comes After the Big Job? with Jody Avirgan

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

News, Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture, Politics

4.6 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Podcast host and producer Jody Avirgan joins us to talk about walking away from big platforms like ESPN and NPR, and what it takes to build something sustainable on your own terms. We get into the pressure to grow, the trap of prestige, and the trade-offs between stability, scale, and creative freedom. In the end, rethinking success might be the real win. Hear the full episode and more at https://patreon.com/pastdue Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:03.7	What happens when you walk away from the biggest media companies in the world?
1:06.8	Not because you've been pushed out, but because you want to be free.
1:11.6	If you want a capital J job and that's who you are and, and that's your goal, like, that's really good.
1:16.1	I have found I'm basically allergic to a corporate environment.
1:19.4	Jody Evergan has worked everywhere from NPR to ESPN.
1:22.8	He's helped launch some of the most respected shows in audio.
1:25.7	But his real story isn't about rising through the ranks.
1:27.7	It's about stepping off the treadmill.
1:28.9	We make a video podcast.
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