What Comes After Mobile? Meta’s Andrew Bosworth on AI and Consumer Tech

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🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Are we nearing the end of the smartphone era? In this episode, a16z Growth General Partner David George talks with Meta CTO Andrew “Boz” Bosworth about what comes after apps and touchscreens. From smart glasses to AR headsets, Boz shares how AI is powering a new wave of computing—one that’s ambient, agentic, and driven by human intent. They explore what it takes to build for this future, the risks of changing interaction models, and why the next big platform shift may already be in motion. This episode is part of our AI Revolution series, where we explore how industry leaders are leveraging generative AI to steer innovation and navigate the next major platform shift. Discover more insights and content from the AI Revolution series at a16z.com/AIRevolution.

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0:00.0	Is there a better way? I think there is.
0:03.0	Every single interface that I interact with, every single problem space that I'm trying to solve,
0:09.0	are going to be made easier by virtue of this new technology.
0:13.0	If you were starting from scratch today, you probably wouldn't build this app-centric world.
0:18.0	You can imagine a post-phone world.
0:21.7	The past 20 years of consumer technology have been a story of apps, of touchscreens, and of
0:27.5	smartphones.
0:28.6	These form factors seemingly appeared out of nowhere and may be replaced just as quickly
0:33.2	as they were ushered in, perhaps by a new AI-enabled stack, a new computing experience that is more agentic,
0:40.3	more adaptive, and more immersive.
0:43.3	Now, in today's episode, A16C's growth general partner, David George, discusses this feature
0:48.6	with arguably one of the most influential builders of this era.
0:52.6	That is, Meta CTO, Andrew Bosz-Bosworth,
0:56.0	who spent nearly two decades at the company, shaping consumer interaction from the Facebook
1:00.8	news feed all the way through to their work on smart glasses and AR headsets. Here, Boz explores the
1:07.1	art of translating emerging technologies into real products that people use and love.
1:12.5	Plus, how breakthroughs in AI and hardware could turn the existing app model on its head.
1:18.1	In this world, what new interfaces and marketplaces need to be developed?
1:22.5	What competitive dynamics hold strong and which fall by the wayside?
1:26.7	For example, will brand still be a moat?
1:29.1	And if we get it right,
1:30.4	Boss says the next wave of consumer tech won't run on taps and swipes,
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