What Comes After Justice? Colby Ryan’s Raw Truth About Surviving the Lori Vallow Daybell Story

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🗓️ 19 October 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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After Lori Vallow-Daybell has finished her 3rd, and final, trial and is back in Idaho, her only surviving son, Colby Ryan sits down with Lauren and Dr. John to talk about what really comes after justice. NOTE: This is a live recorded episoe Sundays For Dogs: Make the switch to Sundays. Go right now to http://sundaysfordogs.com/HIDDEN and get 50% off your first order. Or, you can use code HIDDEN at checkout. AG1: Head to http://drinkag1.com/hidden to get a FREE Welcome Kit, including a bottle of Vitamin D and free AG1 Travel Packs, when you first subscribe About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, everyone. A couple things. Clearly we have Colby J. Ryan with us tonight. Colby is a dear friend of ours. And Colby, it's so good to see you. Thanks for coming on live. We have so much to catch up on. And I love the new Colby J. Ryan sign above. This happened before we went live too. This was a great moment. But I said, that is so great. John's going to be jealous. He wanted one of those. And you said, is it custom? Right. And Colby was like, no, they just had the Colby J. Ryan ones in stock. He pulled out of one of the boxes at Walmart right
0:38.3	yeah one of the stock Walmart yeah right of course I know they're
0:47.2	they're custom because I considered getting one but I was I was told I couldn't so I
0:53.2	won't give you the deep off my lap.
0:56.3	Yeah, but yes, it's clearly custom.
0:59.1	They didn't just have the Colby J. Ryan one.
1:01.0	Your set looks great.
1:02.1	You said it was Kelsey, that good job, Kelsey.
1:05.8	It looks great.
1:06.5	This is the Kelsey influence right behind me.
1:09.7	So not me.
1:10.7	I want my shelf back there with all my nerd stuff behind me. So not me.
1:13.3	I want my shelf back there with all my nerds stuff on it.
1:15.6	Yeah.
1:17.2	Yeah, that was cool too.
1:17.5	Yeah.
1:20.2	You know, we've been in touch with Colby.
1:24.5	Colby, like I mentioned, is a friend of ours, someone we truly care about.
1:29.9	I know that you, Colby and John particularly have a close relationship.
1:37.6	One thing that I've been curious about Colby and I think John has too is and I think the true crime community in general is is, you know, what happens after justice, right?
1:44.9	After a trial, and yours wasn't with your family.
1:49.1	You're a survivor of the most horrendous crimes of your mother and Chad Dayball.
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